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The Biggest Musical Classics
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moviemaniac
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 The Biggest Musical Classics
I tried to think of what the 10 biggest classic musicals are. I ignored my own personal tastes and tried to think of shows that are generally thought of as classics by most people. I considered which musicals even non-theater people have heard of, which musicals have classic songs most people have heard, which ones generally have lots of productions, which ones are often referenced in popular culture, etc. I have come up with a list of 10 musical classic standards (not ranked). I would like to hear your thoughts on the list. Are there any other shows that you think belong on the list? Are there any on the list that you think should be eliminated.
Oklahoma! South Pacific My Fair Lady The Music Man West Side Story The Sound of Music Fiddler on the Roof Les Miserables The Phantom of the Opera Wicked (I know it's still pretty recent, but it is quickly becoming a classic.)
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| Thu May 31, 2012 3:00 pm |
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rafiki.mourns
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 Re: The Biggest Musical Classics
I'd remove Wicked because it is an audience favorite, not actually a respectable musical (the critics hated it). And put in Cats.
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| Thu May 31, 2012 3:21 pm |
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moviemaniac
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 Re: The Biggest Musical Classics
I wouldn't put in Cats. Even though it lasted a long time on Broadway, not many people produce it these days. Also, the only song from Cats that anyone knows is Memory. This list should have shows with multiple songs that are famous. As for critics dismissing Wicked, they also dismissed Les Miserables when it first premiered in London, but no one can deny that it's a classic now. Since Wicked has been extremely popular for over 8 years, some critics who initially panned it are probably giving it a second look. When you get more familiar with Wicked, you realize that it has more depth than it first appears to. That being said, I don't think you should label Wicked as "not a respectable musical."
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| Thu May 31, 2012 3:41 pm |
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Mungojerrie_rt
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 Re: The Biggest Musical Classics
I don't know what your source is for that, but it's not true. I wouldn't include Wicked, mostly because it's too new, and hasn't had the time to show if it will become a theatre standard or fade away. Not to mention, if you are including famous songs, your average Joe really doesn't know anything about Wicked or it's songs. I'd go for a list like: Sound of Music My Fair Lady Phantom of the Opera Cats Grease Rocky Horror West Side Story Les Miserable Fiddler on the Roof Jesus Christ Superstar Of course, many more could be added to the list like King and I, Oklahoma, Evita, Mary Poppins, Cabaret, etc.
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| Thu May 31, 2012 5:05 pm |
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rafiki.mourns
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 Re: The Biggest Musical Classics
Ooh, Grease! I forgot about that! Also maybe West Side Story. And yeah, Cats is still going strong. I saw it in April, and my friend just got cast in a student production of it. Maybe it doesn't have a ton of really well known songs, but almost everyone is familiar with the musical. I don't think "respectable" is exactly the word I was trying to use, but I still don't think Wicked is a classic. For one, most theatres can't perform it yet, as the rights haven't been released yet. And the only two well known songs are Defying Gravity and Popular.
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| Thu May 31, 2012 5:19 pm |
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Salome
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My Fair Lady Gypsy Oklahoma Show Boat South Pacific Les Miserables Hello Dolly Fiddler on th Roof Kiss Me kate Sweeney Todd
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Disney-Bway27
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Uh, this exactly. There's nothing I would add or take off. EDIT: Wait, I was wrong. I'd replace Dolly and either Kate or Sweeney (  ) probably with Guys and Dolls and Music Man. The fact that almost every song in Guys and Dolls has made its way into pop culture in one way or another speaks for itself. Music Man is similar. If we're talking general public, then G&D and Music Man would HAVE to be on there.
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indoposting
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 Re: The Biggest Musical Classics
1. Mass In B Minor – Johann Sebastian Bach
2. Der Ring des Nibelungen – Richard Wagner
3. Symphony No. 9 in D minor "Choral" – Ludwig Van Beethoven
4. Symphony No. 5 in C minor – Ludwig Van Beethoven
5. St Matthew's Passion – Johann Sebastian Bach
6. Tristan und Isolde – Richard Wagner
7. Don Giovanni – Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
8. String Quartet No. 14 in C sharp minor – Ludwig Van Beethoven
9. Messiah – George Frideric Handel
10. Rite of Spring – Igor Stravinsky
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| Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:14 pm |
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moviemaniac
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 Re: The Biggest Musical Classics
Very funny. Anyone else have any thoughts on the biggest BROADWAY musical classics?
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| Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:24 pm |
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Profetikus
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 Re: The Biggest Musical Classics
Hm, is so many great musicals to choice from but from a well known basic and disregarding how comersial theyre are and what the audience is a top list should be:
1: Phantom of the Opera. The longest running musical ever. 2: West Side Story. A classic and explored dancing in a new way. Also builds on one off the most classical stories there is, Romeo and Juliet. 3: My Fair Lady. 4: Cats. Was one off the longest running musicals and started the whole trend off mega musicals. 5: The Lion King: Is one off the most successfull Disney musicals, both as a movie and as a stage musical. 6: Mis Saigon. Every male actors is said to have a dream off being in that fameous chopper, enough said. 7: Mamma Mia. One off the more successfull of the jukebox musicals and is build upon the famous ABBA musics. Maybe to new to really fit but is on the way to become a super classic, and it only ads with the recent movie. 8: Wicked. Is another "maybe to young" but has to fit since its so great. 9: The Sound of Music. 10: Singing In the Rain. A classic both as a movie and as a musical.
Could be many more including Hair and Dirty Dancing, Les Miserablés, Kristina from Duvemåla and Jesus Christ Superstar, but I think thats a good and variable list.
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