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I was in Bye Bye Birdie at my high school, and our script gave Rosie's full name as Rose Alvarez. However, I have seen a number of other sources (including the original Broadway cast album) where she is listed as Rose Grant. Why is her last name different in different sources? And doesn't "Spanish Rose" kind of lose its point if Rosie doesn't have a Spanish-sounding last name?


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I think in the original movie, Rose's last name was changed to Grant because the actress was blonde and didn't look hispanic at all. I know the movie had Dick Van Dyke (I think) as Albert and Ann Margaret I think played Kim, but I don't remember who played Rose.
In the production I did, Rose's last name was Alvarez.
Disney also did a remake with Jason Alexander as Albert, Vanessa A. Williams as Rose, and China Phillips as Kim. In that one, I know Rose's last name was Alvarez.


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Janet Leigh was Rosie and pl;ayed her in black wig and make up in the original film..its the only version where her name is Grant.

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Just looked up the movie version and Janet Leigh played Rose DeLeon. So there's another possible last name. Hmmm, interesting. . .


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In the official script, it's Alvarez.


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musikal_geek wrote:
In the official script, it's Alvarez.


I know that, because I was in this show in high school. I'm just trying to figure out where "Rose Grant" came from and why it appears in the liner notes of the OBC album.

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by the way, who thought that turtle thing in the movie was rediculous!


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Okay, sorry this is 5 months later.. but I was looking at the original playbill in my university's theatre library and i was puzzled to note that Chita Rivera was billed as "Rose Grant." Not sure when or why it become Alvarez, but apparently it was originally Grant.


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AndrewCanSeeIt wrote:
Okay, sorry this is 5 months later.. but I was looking at the original playbill in my university's theatre library and i was puzzled to note that Chita Rivera was billed as "Rose Grant." Not sure when or why it become Alvarez, but apparently it was originally Grant.


If it was originally Grant, how exactly was "Spanish Rose" supposed to work? Isn't the whole point of that song that Mae thinks Rosie's Spanish because she has a Spanish last name, but she isn't really Spanish at all (she comes from Allentown, PA)? Maybe I'm missing something here, but I don't think any of that would make sense if Rosie didn't have a Spanish name.

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its not because of her name its because she is of Spanish decent.

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AndrewCanSeeIt wrote:
Okay, sorry this is 5 months later.. but I was looking at the original playbill in my university's theatre library and i was puzzled to note that Chita Rivera was billed as "Rose Grant." Not sure when or why it become Alvarez, but apparently it was originally Grant.


If it was originally Grant, how exactly was "Spanish Rose" supposed to work? Isn't the whole point of that song that Mae thinks Rosie's Spanish because she has a Spanish last name, but she isn't really Spanish at all (she comes from Allentown, PA)? Maybe I'm missing something here, but I don't think any of that would make sense if Rosie didn't have a Spanish name.


And since when does that not make you Spanish? Have you ever visited Allentown? Hispanics were and are a staggering population. They flocked there. They still do.

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